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FilipeSilva on 23:47, 11. Feb, 2010
See for instance replay 99250
dindon destroyed his own tower and I got a Gentle touch award due that the last card I played was common.
I think that the award was wrongly given and maybe a new one is needed (suicide award?).


dindon on 23:58, 11. Feb, 2010
I'm not an it :(
Progressor on 23:59, 11. Feb, 2010
That won't prevent Gentle touch from being given. Though an award for surrender might discourage suicide as a exp-denier in other cases. But that doesn't really cut it, since surrender will still be an option.
FilipeSilva on 00:18, 12. Feb, 2010
dindon: sorry about that...I now fixed that typo
english is not my primary language
FilipeSilva on 00:25, 12. Feb, 2010
Progressor: (kind of of topic) I do not like people surrender and with avoiding the opponent to win more point (due to awards).
I think a new surrender mechanism was already discussed in another topic in the forums.
I think I suggested some compensation.
Before the levels I used to surrender when the game was cleary lost to free a slot from me and avoid losting time of the opponent, now I do not do that.
Suggestion: Maybe surrender could give distinct awards to both players
Lord Ornlu on 00:51, 12. Feb, 2010
perhaps Surrender should give an exp boost to the winner and an exp penalty to the loser (i.e. loser takes 0 exp instead of 10-20-30 as they do now, winner takes 150 exp as standard exp instead of the usual 100)
FilipeSilva on 01:20, 12. Feb, 2010
About "suicide" I found out another thread named "Suicide + Experience" in this forum
celticfrost on 12:20, 12. Apr, 2010
Mostly same thing: my opponent's surrendered, I got 'gentle touch' bonus
Progressor on 12:22, 12. Apr, 2010
Happened to me a couple of time. It prevented me from sending a message about exp denial.
Lamzor on 14:26, 26. Jun, 2010

Opponent: aniserg
Outcome: Opponent has surrendered
Winner: Lamzor
Hide opponent's cards: yes
Base = 100 EXP
Game rating
Modifier: 0.95, Total: 95 EXP
Opponent rating
Modifier: 2, Total: 190 EXP
Victory rating
Modifier: 1, Total: 190 EXP
Awards
Gentle touch (0.2)
Bonus: 0.2, Total: 38 EXP

You gained 228 EXP


I don't think this should be possible
theultramage on 22:56, 26. Jun, 2010

if ($mylast_card->GetClass() == 'Common' AND $mylast_action == 'play') $recieved[] = 'Gentle touch'; // Gentle touch

It seems pretty simple... the conditions do not take surrender victory into account. Guess it needs some more tweaking.
Mojko on 09:10, 27. Jun, 2010
I propose this solution: Awards will be given only in case of Destruction, Construction and Resource victory. This however allows your opponent to deny your awards.
Progressor on 12:12, 27. Jun, 2010
Which I think is a severe disadvantage. Some players don't know / care about EXP, and are likely to simply surrender when they know their gonna loose, destroying your hard work for a fancy award.
Even removing the option to surrender is preferred above that, I'd say. Better would be that you'd have to accept surrender, as I recall was suggested from older posts.

Alternatively you could apply it for Assassin and Gentle touch only, which are the 2 awards you can get too easily by opponent surrender.
Mojko on 13:44, 27. Jun, 2010
Assassin and Gentle touch awards are now given only in case of Destruction, Construction and Resource victory (https://trac.netvor.sk/arcomage/changeset/970)
Sorlag on 20:43, 29. Jul, 2015
Am I supposed to gain such awards as gentle touch in case of my opponent's suicide? Because Player rating system help says:

"Gentle touch (2 gold) - win by playing a common card"

And in that case I do not think that I won by playing a card (by gentle touch), because the opponent's action became the cause of my win.
DPsycho on 23:24, 29. Jul, 2015
We could reword it as: "Gentle touch (2 gold) - win when your last card played was common" Or would this make people falsely think they could discard an Uncommon after playing a Common and still get it? Maybe: "Gentle touch (2 gold) - win, and you played a common card on your last turn"
Mojko on 06:07, 30. Jul, 2015
It's working as intended. I will correct the description as you suggested.
Sorlag on 06:51, 30. Jul, 2015
I guess that Saboteur, Dragon and Snob awards descriptions should be corrected too then.

And is it possible to gain Titan award that way? If yes, then what condition is counted - having whole set on hands or playing Completion ritual?
Mojko on 10:39, 30. Jul, 2015
Good idea, I'll update other descriptions as well. Titan win condition is checked via Completion ritual.